About sexual inviolability of children. ⇐ Incest from a scientific point of view

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11461 time=1667316193 user_id=1477]
You will tell Katerina68 and if not adults and children whereas act as the initiator of sex?
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And the adult except hormones in the head has nothing?

Or it is such way of rearrangement of responsibility for the events from shoulders of the parent or other adult on the child?

Pier "this his desire, and I here at anything"

[MSC]

There now example:if the girl wants to have sex with the father (on a subject of this website) and the father will refuse to her, she will find sex on the party with the peer in the cellar. In the cellar will lose virginity (most likely standing), can become pregnant or pick up an infection, or both. And further her child can already be born with such infection.

And the second option:if the father agrees and if mother allows them too - the girl loses virginity in a bed with condom use. Any consequences, neither pregnancy nor infections. What you will cover with, interestingly.

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11463 time=1667320195 user_id=1]
There now example:if the girl wants to have sex with the father (on a subject of this website) and the father will refuse to her, she will find sex on the party with the peer in the cellar. In the cellar will lose virginity (most likely standing), can become pregnant or pick up an infection, or both. And further her child can already be born with such
And the second option:if the father agrees and if mother allows them too - the girl loses virginity in a bed with condom use. Any consequences, neither pregnancy nor infections. What you will cover with, interestingly.
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Well I don't even know...



Can the parent it is worth carrying out the duties and still though a little to bring up the child?

There now though slightly to explain what is sex what is a relationship what is venereal diseases... ethics... morals... and all other...



For that simple reason that if the child is unsteady on cellars where fuck on old and dirty sofas and that for certain take also alcohol from the early childhood <...br/>
That in his education obvious problems and the parent from the earliest childhood of the child I was engaged in anything, but definitely not in education...

[MSC]

And if it "the Sunday father" after the divorce? There it won't turn out to bring up well in any way, there won't be enough time.

[MSC]

Approximately day I won't come on this forum.

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11467 time=1667321303 user_id=1]
And if it "the Sunday father" after the divorce? There it won't turn out to bring up well in any way, there won't be enough time.
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AND?



If you it to words about sex in the cellar, then probably mother too to put it mildly chucked in education of the
And "Sunday father"... the father it not that someone brought a konfetochka to the child... at the parent a little other


And if "the Sunday father" is that to someone the girl itself offered
That we come back to words about pedophilia and the fact that... well... to all that was already told... rearrangement of responsibility for the acts on the


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[quote= of MSC post_id=11468 time=1667321604 user_id=1]
Approximately day I won't come on this forum.
[/quote]

Oh... No... You just tear to me
I will worry so...

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11463 time=1667320195 user_id=1]
There now example:if the girl wants to have sex with the father (on a subject of this website) and the father will refuse to her, she will find sex on the party with the peer in the cellar. In the cellar will lose virginity (most likely standing), can become pregnant or pick up an infection, or both. And further her child can already be born with such infection.
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So I also told that children begin the first, the nature demands nevertheless. And I wrote, or yes, or it in revenge, will go to friends where will put on drugs, or will arrange an overdose and here already the girl won't be in general, I think that the taboo isn't so critical, than the


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[quote=katerina68 post_id=11460 time=1667308311 user_id=171]
[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11459 time=1667308010 user_id=120]
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Once again, the incest is not always pedophilia, as well as pedophilia is not always an incest, it isn't necessary to confuse.

If the guy likes the sister, then doesn't mean that he is a pedophile, so that inclination to the
As well with parents if the girl climbs in a bed to the father, for example I became a widow/widower, doesn't mean that he is a pedophile.

[incest guest]

[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11478 time=1667326053 user_id=120]
Once again, the incest is not always pedophilia, as well as pedophilia is not always an incest, it isn't necessary to confuse.

If the guy likes the sister, then doesn't mean that he is a pedophile, so that inclination to the
As well with parents if the girl climbs in a bed to the father, for example I became a widow/widower, doesn't mean that he is a pedophile.
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Once again...

You advised mother to have group sex with 13 summer
You advised and made recommendations another that someone on the specified age was younger than the 16th summer age to be engaged how to incline mother, the
You advised the father to give to drink the wife and the daughter and to arrange a group sex under


So you advise
And incest too...



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[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11478 time=1667326053 user_id=120]
So I also told that children begin the first, the nature demands nevertheless. And I wrote, or yes, or it in revenge, will go to friends where will put on drugs, or will arrange an overdose and here already the girl won't be in general, I think that the taboo isn't so critical, than the girl's life.
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Yes.

This frequent justification of parents pedophiles.

They meant well a pier...



And the fact that they to majority are entirely responsible for the child and his
And the drugs mentioned by you you, as well as questions what is a relationship what is sex, morals and all other... including...



But besides
Pedophiles like to find similar justifications.

It is their favourite subject... a pier they take "care"...

[incest guest]

[quote=katerina68 post_id=11462 time=1667316679 user_id=171]
And the adult except hormones in the head has nothing?

Or it is such way of rearrangement of responsibility for the events from shoulders of the parent or other adult on the child?

Pier "this his desire, and I here at anything"
[/quote] you it is serious?

You never heard that girls quite voluntarily begin to fuck with everyone, are enough a heap of diseases not to mention pregnancies.

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11505 time=1667372444 user_id=1477]
You it is serious?

You never heard that girls quite voluntarily begin to fuck with everyone, are enough a heap of diseases not to mention pregnancies.
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What that was sexual dissoluteness of the teenager can excuse the pedophile.

[MSC]

Mats by the way weren't. At her also a hallucination

[MSC]

There someone wrote about dirty sofas in cellars. So it in series is shown (in the same in whom prisons with European-quality repair). Actually in cellars there are no sofas, any, and there is no light. And gad on cellars not because of dissoluteness but because between legs scratches, it is even itched. Simply there is no place more, there is no other room anywhere, didn't find.

This is what is available but not fantastic scientific theories.

[incest guest]

[b] this week. [/b]

[b] Short article not a subject of a psychological portrait of those someone shows "special love and warmth" to children. [/b]



[b] doesn't have the Accurate psychological portrait of the pedophile, but there is a way to save the children [/b]



In a news feed there are much shocking messages that the next child suffered from the pedophile's hands. It happens on the street, but often and directly at home. The child's father, the brother, the uncle and the stepfather whom mother brought home can appear the pedophile.

Psychologists and criminalists say that a certain portrait of the pedophile doesn't exist. It can be the person of any appearance, I.Q., a profession, the status. Externally not to distinguish him in any way.



[b] Such mental disorder isn't treated. And pedophiles extremely seldom ask for the help, [/b] the psychologist and the sex therapist Tyatyana Badova tells. Their maximum is learned to operate the sexual desire and register a course of drug treatment which reduces a libido. But it doesn't solve a problem radically. And from the patient the big will power to overcome the sexual inclination to


[b] Pedophilia is a congenital pathology or arisen because of the postponed psychological trauma in the childhood. [/b] Such people can come into sexual contact with children not necessarily. They can also watch them, touch, caress, tickle.



Delicious age for the pedophile are children the reached 10 years, Tyatyana Badova says:Pedophiles are infantile individuals who got stuck in the childhood. They are simply not capable to enter a relationship with adults.



Most often they choose children from dysfunctional families or very obedient and convenient. The second are brought up with a thought that the adult is always right. They aren't able to speak no and won't dare to tell someone.



[b] How not to bring the pedophile to itself home? [/b]

Pedophiles choose women a certain category too. As a rule, it the intimidated mice which very much to be afraid of social condemnation. That is to be left without man of one with the


[b] What has to guard at communication with the man? [/b]

There are two extremes. On the one hand at communication when it comes about children, the pedophile speaks of them with delight and aspiration or is very aggressive. And in the attitude towards children:the pedophile beats and intimidates the child with impunity to satisfy the lust or opposite, shows too great love and attention to the child. Mother should pay attention, doesn't caress or doesn't touch the child, accidentally, where it isn't necessary her


[b] whether mother Knows that the father or the stepfather rapes her minor daughter? [/b]

Undoubtedly, speak


How could mother of the 12-year-old girl who gave rise from the stepfather (a recent case in the Dnipropetrovsk region), not to notice what for two years of her child is forced?

Mothers either ignore the events or don't want to see. There is it that mother can perceive the daughter as the competitor or just not to want to enter with the man intimate relationship. Quite arranges it that fulfills her duties the


Strangely enough, but at the time of the USSR, cases of seduction of children was more, but it wasn't accepted to speak about it and all obediently were silent. It is a big problem of society. The psychologist Tatyana Badova gave an example of the patient:

The girl was seduced by the stepfather. Mother, the grandmother, the father knew about it. Knew about it at school. But still mother lives with this stepfather.

The child can not know to someone to go with this problem. Plus here the word of the adult minding word of the child. Often even law enforcement authorities don't want to undertake for these
How mothers to save the child?

Tatyana advises such rules:

- not to be emotionally cold mother;

- to build up trusting relationship with the child, he has to know that it is possible to approach mother with any problem;

- to explain that there are zones on a body which nobody has to touch without his permission;

- to tell the child that not all adults never want to him good and, under any pretext not to go with the stranger anywhere;

- to teach the child to know the borders and to speak no if something isn't pleasant to him;

- mother has to be aware where her child and that he does.

Besides, children shouldn't be involved in sexual life of parents. I begin since a year, they already understand a lot of things. It is more best not to bathe and not to put heterosexual children to sleep together after 3 years. After 3 years mother shouldn't bathe the boy, and the father the


Now pedophiles can not rape children, and dump tension by means of viewing of child porn. But in that and other case, all the same suffer


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[MSC]

There is still child porn in animated cartoons. In this case children don't suffer.

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11511 time=1667396518 user_id=1]
There is still child porn in animated cartoons. In this case children don't suffer.
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Probably creativity of fans of pedophilia.

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , Japan, Japan. There it isn't considered a pornography (laws such). There in Japan both the usual porn legal and children's is considered usual (if it in animated cartoons).

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11514 time=1667400506 user_id=1]
katerina68, Japan, Japan. There it isn't considered a pornography (laws such). There in Japan both the usual porn legal and children's is considered usual (if it in animated cartoons).
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The country origin doesn't cancel the fact that these products for fans of pedophilia.

[incest guest]

[quote=katerina68 post_id=11506 time=1667372630 user_id=171]
What that was sexual dissoluteness of the teenager can excuse the pedophile.
[/quote] And why dissoluteness of the teenager and why pedophilia?

You that at what age seksitsya steel?

Not that to pension was pulled?

And before that as panties to remove the passport probably asked the partner?

Did you in general that ever participate in an incest or not?

Just I try yours extent of understanding of a problem which is discussed here?

Incest he and between full age too an incest.

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , conclusion:Japan - the country of pedophiles.

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11516 time=1667425153 user_id=1477]
And why dissoluteness of the teenager and why pedophilia?
[/quote]

If it isn't clear, then I will explain.



All those words that are written above that the father didn't want that the daughter somewhere there went to look for
Can't excuse the father that went for sex with the minor


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[quote=MGK post_id=11516 time=1667425153 user_id=1477]
Just I try yours extent of understanding of a problem which is discussed here?
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Most than those is obvious...



Someone gives advice to mothers here to arrange a group sex with 13 summer
That character, that writes as he touches and smoothes out genitals to 9 summer
And to all of them to similar frank fans of


All those visionaries and frank liars whose stories are cut off on their own sclerosis about what they write, and then forget.

Those someone doesn't know elementary physiology and which laziness well though a little to read the corresponding literature before composing the
Those someone shucks so that he in writes as peretrakhat female all the relatives beginning from both grandmothers finishing cousins.



And no offense...

Much more you...



With this your
Though a little bit would correlate to common sense.
[quote=MGK post_id=7074 time=1659172502 user_id=1477]
Everything, only not all admit it.

My schoolmate, many years served in
He told that when meter come to prisoners on a long appointment, in 99 cases from 100 there is a sex.
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Or here with it...

Rolled into one and two friends of juveniles of the gay that to you came to fuck on a visit both which you and with interest watched.

And the fact that they did blowjob to you... as a token of gratitude...

And the idea at the level of a porn of stories "oh the sonny fuck me more better but don't think of a geystvo"

And your favourite... mother's hint that to you in 14 already so not in терпеж that you even think of violence... well it of course to push her to a thought that she offered herself, but only the beloved sonny wouldn't follow sex anywhere... in 14

[quote=MGK post_id=6868 time=1658796902 user_id=1477]
Long ago, in the USSR I was 14 years old, I was on friendly terms with two guys is more senior, to one was to 15 another 16.

Guys were gay persons, but hid it, then for it put.

My stepfather went on business trips, and mother worked around the clock, on it I started up them to myself that they fucked.

Itself only looked though offered, the truth sometimes they to me sucked as a token of gratitude.

Somehow time when they fucked, and I looked unexpectedly came
Well scandal she expelled them, more precisely they escaped, mother began to cry and say to me that it is wrong that when boys grow up and will become men they will be engaged in it with


Mother began to cry and left, and in about two hours, came to me, and told that we can have sex if I to someone I won't tell, and won't be with these
I at first was frightened, and began to cry thinking that I am a gay person. Generally from this point we began to fuck regularly and when the stepfather left just lived as the husband with the wife.
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[quote=MGK post_id=11516 time=1667425153 user_id=1477]
Did you in general that ever participate in an incest or not?

Just I try yours extent of understanding of a problem which is discussed here?
[/quote]

Though on the other hand/>


With this where you with such love tell that you and the 11th summer daughter don't disdain.

And still you so good father that what is sex you show to the child of 11-12 years on the example of that as fuck with the whore.

In 13 years for you already normal age that to fuck the child.

Practical experience and in pedophilia and in an incest. Well miracle

[quote=MGK post_id=7964 time=1660732133 user_id=1477]
Already I wrote,
When the wife died, remained with the daughter together, onut an incest already was as I slept with mother from 13.5
But mother lived in 200 km, often you won't arrive, and there was a wish for sex often, I brought home
When the daughter was about 11 years old noticed that she began to spy, began to create situations when it was convenient to it to see everything.

Plus began to undress to a goal when I bathed her.

Where in half a year she exorcized that to me, began to ask as as, then I caused one of the constant whores and for surcharge fucked her at the daughter what that, so to speak close up saw everything.

When next day I bathed the daughter she took me for a dick a hand and began to jerk off, then licked.

After that I suggested to go to a bed and licked it.

From this day we began to have oral sex nearly an every day, in 12 at her began monthly and it began to ask
Send to the doctor to her picked up tablets under a pretext strong menstrual pains, contraceptive tablets kill these pains so it didn't cause suspicion.

And in 13 years she told that or I will begin to have with her sex, or will give somebody, then I э also tore the virgin.

Stekh of a time we seksitsya regularly.
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Someone do you want to be?



That someone from 11 years of the child accustoms to sex?

Or nevertheless you will tell that you only dream?



In my opinion to admit that you frankly think out nevertheless more better than to hold
But here is more visible to you... probably you prefer an honorary title of those someone shows special love of children. The expert so to speak in a fuck of 13 summer girls.

[incest guest]

The girl, I don't live in Russia long ago, I live in the country where normal age of consent for girls of 14 years, and with the permission of the judge 12.

Also believe judges don't refuse permissions, I could find to myself such
It isn't difficult to me to go to India, to places where the 13th summer prostitute is considered old.

But I don't do it because it doesn't attract me from a word absolutely.

Here the speech goes not about sex with young children at all, here it is about
That to my life, I wrote the truth whether you like it or not.

Sex with mother continued for many years to her
On Friday I have to have time and I will add.

Sex with the daughter continues and now, she already enough adult to accept independent
That to you, your mind indignant boils and into mortal battle it is ready to go.

But the reason is unclear.

Maybe tell about yourself?

And excuse that paranoia not that smells slightly, and just stinks.

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11524 time=1667474552 user_id=1477]
The girl, I don't live in Russia long ago, I live in the country where normal age of consent for girls of 14 years, and with the permission of the judge 12.

Also believe judges don't refuse permissions, I could find to myself such bride.
[/quote]

So I and understood that for all sex with children 12 it are normal.

But where you wouldn't live, in the territory of the Russian Federation and the majority of other countries, you the pedophile of times for you is normal things of children with 12 years to involve in sexual the


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[quote=MGK post_id=11524 time=1667474552 user_id=1477]
That to you, your mind indignant boils and into mortal battle it is ready to go.
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It you on the basis of what?

Quotes of your message and the fact that whether I took an interest you compose or on began to fuck the child from 12-13 years?



Really...

It is direct here with so I began to boil...

And probably if I quoted couple more of messages, then you bi wrote that him be that in general breaks off me...



But it is good that you recognize that the rights of the child for you mean nothing also sex with children to you norm.

[Pedophile]

Well, there is a wish for sex with small. The norm is a behavior of the majority. There is a wish that it became a norm.

[incest guest]

By the way …

Maybe you will help with an odzhny question?



You write that to you 60 what gives that you were born in +/-1962.
[quote=MGK post_id=9243 time=1663063255 user_id=1477]
I am 60 years old, from them 25 I live not in the Russian Federation, and I write in the basic not in Russian.

So mistakes are inevitable and here and not a forum of gramaty.py
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You write that sex with mother you since 1970, so to you had +/-8 years.
[quote=MGK post_id=7071 time=1659171682 user_id=1477]
I didn't find, and did, at first it, especially on дачщ when spied as she changes clothes.

Then when steel it seksitsya already in open.

But long ago it was, we with since 1970 and up to her death in 2015 seksitsya.
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And here you write that to you is 14 years and sex at you still isn't present, and so there is a wish that you even ask mother "And what to do if there is already a wish and there is no woman? Not to force that?" and mother helped you so to speak. And time to you 14 that it +/-1976 that doesn't meet with words that you since 1970 seksitsya.
[quote=MGK post_id=6868 time=1658796902 user_id=1477]
Long ago, in the USSR I was 14 years old, I was on friendly terms with two guys is more senior, to one was to 15 another 16.

Guys were gay persons, but hid it, then for it put.

My stepfather went on business trips, and mother worked around the clock, on it I started up them to myself that they fucked.

Itself only looked though offered, the truth sometimes they to me sucked as a token of gratitude.

Somehow time when they fucked, and I looked unexpectedly came
Well scandal she expelled them, more precisely they escaped, mother began to cry and say to me that it is wrong that when boys grow up and will become men they will be engaged in it with
I without any ulterior motive told:"And what to do if there is already a wish and there is no woman? Not to force that?"

Mother began to cry and left, and in about two hours, came to me, and told that we can have sex if I to someone I won't tell, and won't be with these
I at first was frightened, and began to cry thinking that I am a gay person. Generally from this point we began to fuck regularly and when the stepfather left just lived as the husband with the wife.
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So when nevertheless you began sex with mother? In 8 years or in 14? In 1970 or 1976?

And that something the difference is rather big for an accidental typo.

[incest guest]

[quote= Pedophile of post_id=11528 time=1667476368 user_id=1]
The norm is a behavior of the majority. There is a wish that it became a norm.
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I agree completely, but for other reason:in sanctimonious society which in every way seeks to isolate children from sexuality they grow up sexually semiliterate and inclined to the same hypocrisy that can spoil subsequently with him private life at all not less, than sexual violence in the childhood. Nonviolent, free sex with those someone the child loves and someone love him does not harm, but advantage. And children too begin to want sooner or later sex and feel terrible frustration when they have no such opportunity (I remember, in particular, and on myself). Some countries already begin to realize it - for example, in Switzerland condoms of the children's size because teenagers will fuck all the same already for a long time are on sale, well so let do it safely.

[Pedophile]

[ref] Polosaty_Kot [/ref] , Little girls like to suck a finger and mothers abuse them for it. If they suck to the father - the father pleasantly, it is convenient to mother (when was tired or when "the head hurts"). And the girl receives that she wants - not the finger sucks and something is thicker.

[incest guest]

[quote=Polosaty_Kot post_id=11531 time=1667478184 user_id=2145]
[quote= Pedophile of post_id=11528 time=1667476368 user_id=1]
The norm is a behavior of the majority. There is a wish that it became a norm.
[/quote]
I agree completely, but for other reason:in sanctimonious society which in every way seeks to isolate children from sexuality.
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About what I also say that the incest is not always pedophilia, guys dream of mothers, want them in the wife, the girl, for them the father sometimes an ideal,

many girls "The father, I to an outgrowth will also become your wife"

Such as, I with the colleague, at her the husband and men, were adults, and I suit for sons 16-18 more young, that is many look for girls and women,

and here suddenly the daughter's girlfriend, drank a little, grew bolder and got into a bed to her father, that is once not a
I tell plus too, a law binding, to age, too sometimes
The guy came, give beer, DR18 of years tomorrow, didn't sell, to him 18 tomorrow, I bought a bottle of vodka and in firewood and strongly the law I helped.



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[quote= of MSC post_id=11520 time=1667457955 user_id=1]
[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , conclusion:Japan - the country of pedophiles.
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And I wrote long ago (Rzhev to be silent) that if didn't change, then children up to 15-16 years, slept with parents there, I won't be surprised that incest level

there it is more, the father washes the daughter, and she already tekt, mine father's
Then, I consider that video incest, is not Germany, the leader Japan, it is so much video at them, and 99% of mothers give, only break,

type it isn't good, and the dick already in them, through min. 5 too "It isn't correct", and already covers her and she groans, and then that in real I think,

they cum. And, such feeling that for them the guy the owner that is if they are taken, they have to will obey.

Plus yes, they have automatic machines where sell panties of girls which they carried and.

And the fact that the girl touch in the subway, it as a glass of water a
And it seems it isn't in China, that is it isn't so opened.

Here that a rarity, but appeared, it Lesbian Japanese, and sex of the granddaughter and grandmother and mother, in Japan it is already frequent in
Only somehow drunk Japanese aren't enough.

[incest guest]

[ref] MSC [/ref] , you че to a ku-k? You in Japan though were? Anywhere child porn isn't considered normal. Don't confuse Hentai and a usual porn

[MSC]

[ref] grower30 [/ref] the point is that "child porn" is a video. It isn't lawful anywhere. I spoke about animated films in which the Japanese artists draw sex with children (probably it you also call Hentai) And obviously inattentively you read messages.

You can find information on what in Japan such animated films (with the image of sex with children) wanted to recognize as child porn in the Internet. But the Japanese artists were indignant and at the moment the risky image of sex with children isn't considered child porn in Japan. And usual porn there legally. Because of what you inattentively read the ohm had to chew as *********

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11524 time=1667474552 user_id=1477]
The girl, I don't live in Russia long ago, I live in the country where normal age of consent for girls of 14 years, and with the permission of the judge 12.
[/quote] is similar at you from fucklessnes the roof went.

I it seems clearly wrote that there where I live age of marriage for girls of 14 years, and with a razrecheniye of the judge 12.

And also I wrote that it doesn't attract me.

I am attracted in general by women is more senior, the wife was several years more senior, and I in general always chose prostitutes is much more senior than me.

For example when I am in Moscow, I like to take Polina if that is interesting it is in city intim, questionnaire number 506327 age of 70
Sec. with with the daughter as well as sex with mother is absolutely other category, age here at all not and.

To you эгото not to understand, in general I doubt that you ponimt what is


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[quote=katerina68 post_id=11527 time=1667475369 user_id=171]
It you on the basis of what?

Quotes of your message and the fact that whether I took an interest you compose or on the child from 12-13 years began a fuck
[/quote] And you learn not only to read, but also to understand read.

There where would read, everything was written.



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[quote=katerina68 post_id=11530 time=1667477989 user_id=171]
So when nevertheless you began sex with mother? In 8 years or in 14? In 1970 or 1976?

And that something the difference is rather big for an accidental typo. [/quote]
In 14, in 8 at me yet not


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[quote=katerina68 post_id=11530 time=1667477989 user_id=171]
And here you write that to you is 14 years and sex at you still isn't present, and so there is a wish that you even ask mother "And what to do if there is already a wish and there is no woman? Not to force that?" and mother helped you so to speak. And time to you 14 that it +/-1976 that doesn't meet with words that you since 1970 seksitsya.
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Yes mother helped as was afraid that I will begin to fuck with friends
Me by the way homosexuality when didn't attract, but also those someone prefers to fuck people of the floor of disgust don't cause in me.

I in general consider that in sex everything that is acceptable for all
And yes in acknowledgement of the fact that I gave to friends the chance to fuck at me to me I sucked.

What in it surprising?

And what surprising that the person opevkhatatsya and printed 70 instead of 76?

I don't know as you and I print in blind, plus I have not one computer, on one figures and from above and with a side, and on the friend only with
And what?

In other you don't trust, and it isn't necessary, me that that it what?

Yes not what, I here just on the fact that decided to write vopominaniye about us with mother can someone is interesting, can at someone were, or resembles the
<
Today to stat I will add one more post.

[incest guest]

[quote=MGK post_id=11565 time=1667565472 user_id=1477]
Probably at you from fucklessnes the roof went.
[/quote]

Well well... Time couldn't be told in essence, emotions got. It approximately when the boy argues with someone and arguments ended he you resort to the such veiled insults in style "there is nothing you don't understand because you are a gay". Here and you passed to the same. A pier I understand nothing because
But I agree. It is difficult to justify sexual inclination to children.


[quote=MGK post_id=11565 time=1667565472 user_id=1477]
Sec. with with the daughter as well as sex with mother is absolutely other category, age here at all not and.

To you эгото not to understand, in general I doubt that you ponimt what is sex.
[/quote]
Here you're right. I don't understand as it is possible to fuck the child and to spit that he even doesn't have 16.



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[quote=MGK post_id=11565 time=1667565472 user_id=1477]
And what surprising that the person opevkhatatsya and printed 70 instead of 76?

I don't know as you and I print in blind, plus I have not one computer, on one figures and from above and with a side, and on the friend only with
And what?
[/quote]

Will go. The 6 and 0 keys that in the top row at a great distance between with each other.

And on the additional keyboard don't adjoin.

The miss on a key can be in the neighbourhood but not on several aside.



So your jamb and remains with age.

Not to explain it with a typo.



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Homosexuality didn't attract.

But repeatedly accepted blowjob from boys in acknowledgement.


[quote=MGK post_id=11565 time=1667565472 user_id=1477]
Me by the way homosexuality when didn't attract
[/quote]

[quote=MGK post_id=11565 time=1667565472 user_id=1477]
And yes in acknowledgement of the fact that I gave to friends the chance to fuck at me to me I sucked.
[/quote]
[quote=MGK post_id=6868 time=1658796902 user_id=1477]
My stepfather went on business trips, and mother worked around the clock, on it I started up them to myself that they fucked.

Itself only looked though offered, the truth sometimes they to me sucked as a token of gratitude.
[/quote]

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , you would write to the 80th "to spit that there are no 18", from 1998 to 2003 would write to the period to spit that there are no 14". And how in your opinion in Japan and South Korea fuck girls in 13 l how to Mexico fuck girls in 12 l? Lawfully under their laws.

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11580 time=1667651001 user_id=1]
katerina68, you would write to the 80th "to spit that there are no 18", from 1998 to 2003 would write to the period to spit that there are no 14". And how in your opinion in Japan and South Korea fuck girls in 13 l how to Mexico fuck girls in 12 l? Lawfully under their laws.
[/quote]
All too most once again.

Something there somewhere there is possible.

And somewhere it is possible to hammer with stones also.

So not an argument.

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , so in Russia was possible from the 14th and it was impossible to 18 and not somewhere there

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11582 time=1667654349 user_id=1]
katerina68, so in Russia was possible from the 14th and it was impossible to 18 and not somewhere there
[/quote]
And this yours "was" any more not once was.

From the moment of the introduction of the law in force it "was" in past
And all the subsequent is considered already relatively the adopted
But not concerning what was yesterday.

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] , is visible that the person (you) floated", gets out, answers not in a subject.

In 1998 reduced age from the 16th to 14. If again lower, to swallow a spittle from deputies and express full I totally approve? :clever:

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11585 time=1667655746 user_id=1]
katerina68, is visible that the person (you) floated", gets out, answers not in a subject.
[/quote]

So you once again repeat the same question referring to the same
That on other countries where the pedophilia which is so loved by you
Once again you repeat that that in the Russian Federation once the norm was other.



But yes... really...

The answer that specified by you has no relation to reality here and now - it I get out...



How many on yours does have to pass time?

About 100 years? 200?



And till that time of the pedophile it will be possible to justify with the words " there now recently the norm was another "? so perhaps?

Or to others yours a thesis "in such country it isn't a pedophile, let's him release and let loves further children"?



With your logic that that was once possible... or somewhere norm another...

It is possible that you want to justify up to


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[quote= of MSC post_id=11585 time=1667655746 user_id=1]
If again lower, to swallow a spittle from deputies and express full I totally approve?
[/quote]

Here when will be...

Then you awake to rejoice.



For now the legislation moves in other direction/>
And this yours "If again is lowered" your


Here you can esteem:

Russia toughened punishment for pedophiles and their accomplices. The new law on Sunday, March 6, was signed by the President of Russia Vladimir Putin, is reported on the official site of legal
of https://Lenta.ru/news/2022/03/06/pedo_pedo /



Here on a touch a subject:

For concealment of serious crimes concerning children imprisonment about one year, and especially heavy - up to two years will threaten. These and other amendments were approved by the State Duma Committee on state construction and the
https://rg.ru/2022/02/14/v-gosdume-podderzhali-nakazanie-dlia-ukryvatelej-pedofilii.html



And still:

The amendments to the Criminal code strengthening punishment for pedophiles came into force. The Chairman of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin <

https://rg.ru/2022/02/08/vstupil-v-silu-zakon-o-pozhiznennom-sroke-dlia-pedofilov.html

[MSC]

[ref] katerina68 [/ref] when is, you will tell " the law there is a law, well if lowered means now it is possible".

And in reply you will write that pages in hope that someone will read these hundred pages. Meaning that is lost.

[incest guest]

[quote= of MSC post_id=11588 time=1667657685 user_id=1]
katerina68 when is, you will tell " the law there is a law, well if lowered means now it is possible".

And in reply you will write that pages in hope that someone will read these hundred pages. Meaning that is lost.
[/quote]

The fact that you aren't able to understand sense of publications and sendings on articles on psychology and the
Doesn't mean that he is absent.



But though you aren't rude this time...

I praise...



Any, and for you - progress...

[MSC]

Yes it is possible in reply the whole textbook from 1000 pages to reprint. And at the end to ask "well, understood that you aren't right?"

[incest guest]

[quote=katerina68 post_id=11587 time=1667657090 user_id=171]
[quote= of MSC post_id=11585 time=1667655746 user_id=1]
katerina68, is visible that the person (you) floated", gets out, answers not in a subject.
[/quote]
,

Or to others yours a thesis "in such country it isn't a pedophile, let's him release and let loves further children"?

It is possible that you want to justify up to murder...
[/quote]

Again I will get:it is necessary to estimate after all, that is one watches video, it has the whole library, the second seduced the schoolgirl and threw,

the third in 19 years began to live with the schoolgirl and their child was almost born, parents give the apartment, the dacha the car, the fourth

watches for girls and wears out, at home seduces, and maybe through gifts money that too is possible, the fifth entices too and drags to the forest,

then it is clear what with them does.



And under the law, most likely all will be guilty though the first touched nobody, the third is ready to go to the REGISTRY OFFICE, and under the law will receive.

Besides, it isn't caught, not the


I looked, according to 70% in states had oral sex, at school, roughly 40-50% had sex during


Concerning murder, long ago resolved, first in the USA and Europe there are mercenaries who are at war also in Ukraine including, even get paid, they are at war for Democracy. During the Second World War too, of course killed, but the choice wasn't.



And here in peace time, on the street and the ave., yes, article.

[incest guest]

[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11722 time=1667895437 user_id=120]
Again I will get:it is necessary to estimate after all, that is one watches video, it has the whole library, the second seduced the schoolgirl and threw,

the third in 19 years began to live with the schoolgirl and their child was almost born, parents give the apartment, the dacha the car
[/quote]

Will speak excessive probably that it is different


So the fact that in the first case it is article about storage and/or distribution of child porn the article of the Criminal Code

In the second case the word "I seduced" is used that already points that it doesn't get under good will and respectively too the article of the Criminal Code.



And the third... well for the lack of age of the girl it is necessary only to assume.

If to 16... that he is a pedophile... and his desire to marry exactly as well as what that would be the words of the girl for trial matter.

If more than 16... then even at the consent of parents of the girl and her too the court can recognize this marriage and has the right to solve differently. And that as similar courts pass it in

[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11722 time=1667895437 user_id=120]
the fourth watches for girls and wears out, at home seduces, and maybe through gifts money that too is possible, the fifth entices too and drags to the forest,

then it is clear what with them does.
[/quote]

For the criminal code and common
The fifth... tyrant and if children his specialization, then and


And the fourth... "watches for girls and wears out, at home seduces"

Interesting such option... Probably the fact that he "wears out" girls what means actions minds will it for you violence isn't...

so... there was a wish to chat... here also I dragged...



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[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11722 time=1667895437 user_id=120]
I looked, according to 70% in states had oral sex, at school, roughly 40-50% had sex during study.
[/quote]

Truth? Looked?

The link it is possible on so entertaining statistics?

Or the answer will be "there on the Internet is look for".



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[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11722 time=1667895437 user_id=120]
Concerning murder, long ago resolved, first in the USA and Europe there are mercenaries who are at war also in Ukraine including, even get paid, they are at war for Democracy. During the Second World War too, of course killed, but the choice wasn't.

And here in peace time, on the street and the ave., yes, article.
[/quote]

And this writing probably was the comment for these words about justification of

[quote=katerina68 post_id=11587 time=1667657090 user_id=171]
With your logic that that was once possible... or somewhere norm another...

It is possible that you want to justify up to murder...
[/quote]

What changes sense of words from those that referring to norms of other countries and times it is possible to justify anything up to
Also means that in certain time and/or according to norms in some countries it is quite possible to justify murder without war an allusion to which you is so inappropriate inserted.

[incest guest]

I want to tell that in the world is justified long ago if isn't present, then mercenaries got penal, they receive
That is double morals, roughly speaking, besides I will repeat that in life it is article but as military operations, it is fight for


About someone isn't, again you put the opinion.

I didn't write that to award all, it isn't necessary to slander.

Just the first, well watches also this his business which threw, he under the law the pedophile, on sex to preference, not necessarily someone wants to go to the REGISTRY OFFICE,

here I don't consider that the pedophile, besides, if were lit, but most likely, will wait age and there are no problems

[incest guest]

[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11725 time=1667897949 user_id=120]
I want to tell that in the world it is justified long ago if isn't present, then mercenaries got penal, they receive
That is double morals, roughly speaking, besides I will repeat that in life it is article but as military operations, it is fight for democracy.
[/quote]
Really...

That military
That usual
Probably everything is uniform...




[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11725 time=1667897949 user_id=120]
About someone isn't, again you put the opinion.
[/quote]
Not the. And opinion of UK and Administrative Code <.br/>
And the opinion of most of those for someone sex with children isn't



[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11725 time=1667897949 user_id=120]
Just the first, well watches also this his business
[/quote]
And this just your
According to the criminal code storage of child porn is punishable.

As for removal of similar children and respectively violence over them are used.


[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11725 time=1667897949 user_id=120]
someone wants to go to the REGISTRY OFFICE, here I don't consider that the pedophile.
[/quote]
Besides...

This your
Judicial practice and legislation a little other.

[incest guest]

[quote=katerina68 post_id=11727 time=1667898754 user_id=171]
[quote=Alex454545 post_id=11725 time=1667897949 user_id=120]
[/quote]
1) So about war, not to me, someone told that it is forbidden to use weapon and the ave., this your personal
And I will repeat, for war there is no law, or you invented?

And here I struck and the person died, yes, either self-defense excess, or premeditated, or is accidental.



2) As for removal of similar children respectively violence over them are used.

I can upset, but video is downloaded from torrents and it isn't necessary most to remove.

About violence, too I will tell that many girls for bucks and now agree, on I shouted, either kuna, or a sensuality, many agree

Without saying, that show to the guy in 15 the girl in 20, so he will agree to cinema, not 100%, but many, at least, to sex

Now the girl can play at 16-18 plus more young, and won't notice if in 40 years play 20 summer.



3) About the REGISTRY OFFICE and the ave., I will repeat, the people stupid are direct at us and the girl in 14-15 years will go, in the REGISTRY OFFICE and will ask, or to the girl 15-16 and she goes

down the street and everything speaks, and I am 15 years old, and to the guy 20 and everything know, nobody learns anything if not the silly woman <.br/>
And if in the REGISTRY OFFICE, then parents tell, wait half a year and we will appoint date and will be 16 already and at the same time you will get used and you will check whether you approach.